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An aside on your 3ʳᵈ point/role for CDR:

Another way of looking at it, or framing it, is CDR in this role for the purpose of minimizing peak temperature.

And, just to illustrate, I am going to use the values that David Ho uses in his strange Nature letter-to-the-editor "Carbon dioxide removal is not a current climate solution — we need to change the narrative" [https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-00953-x].

Despite a lot of personal commentary and opinion, Ho makes just two cites of scientific literature to support just these two factual claims he makes:

• we emitted 40.5 GtCO₂ yr⁻¹ in 2022 [P. Friedlingstein et al.Earth Syst. Sci. Data14, 4811–4900;

2022]

• "In reality, residual emissions will probably be 18% of

our current total (i.e., ~7.3 GtCO₂ yr⁻¹), so we will have to scale up CDR substantially to reach net zero." [H. J. Buck et al. Nature Clim. Change

https://doi.org/j4jg; 2023]

So, for all his deprecation of CDR throughout the piece, Ho *himself* says we'll still *NEED* ~7.3 GtCO₂ yr⁻¹ of CDR to achieve net-zero.

But his argument then is that scaling up CDR now would be a waste, and we should instead *wait* to begin scaling up *until* we have already reduced gross positive emissions significantly first - say, to that 7.3 GtCO₂ yr⁻¹ level.

But let's see what the cumulative emissions and peak temperature impacts are in that scenario vs a scenario where you scale the CDR concurrent with emissions reductions.

In scenario one, let's say we reduce positive emissions from 42 GtCO₂ yr⁻¹ in 2024 to residual 7.3 GtCO₂ yr⁻¹ in 2050, and then hold positive emissions constant as we scale up from 0 to 7.3 GtCO₂ yr⁻¹ of CDR by 2075.

On a straight line basis cumulative emissions are 640.9 GtCO₂ in 2024-50, and a further cumulative positive 94.9 GtCO₂ in 2050-75, for a total of net 732.2 GtCO₂.

But if, instead, you used and scaled up CDR to Ho's required quantity of 7.3 GtCO₂ yr⁻¹ *during* the same period 2024-2050, then we have the same 640.9 GtCO₂ of gross positive emissions 2024-50 but for net cumulative emissions that is reduced by 94.9 GtCO₂ of cumulative CDR, for a total of net 546 GtCO₂. (Net emissions post 2050 would, presumably, continue at ~0 GtCO₂ yr⁻¹, unless CDR were further scaled.) This more than a quarter less than the cumulative emissions in Ho's proposed sequencing, were deployment of CDR is described as "next to useless" if done before emissions are already drastically reduced.

Turning to the difference in peak temperatures, the IPCC AR6 WGI estimates the transient climate response to cumulative CO₂ emissions (TCRE) as approximately 0.45°C/1,000 GtCO₂.

So a reduction in peak temperature at the peak of cumulative emissions of 732 - 546 = 186 GtCO₂ would be expected to be 186/1000 * 0.45 ≈ 0.1°C. Now, we often hear about "every ⅒ᵗʰ of a degree counts!" and "limiting any overshoot is critical, because just restoring temps lower after a peak can't reverse all the non-temperature impacts and/or avoid tipping points." So, "CDR now" is *not* "next to useless" if you consider this reduction in peak temperature valuable.

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